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Mere_Mortal
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 Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:33 am Post subject: 180Problems Suing ZoneLabs |
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Oops, make that 180Solutions, aka 180searchAssistant or Zango or nCase or any other profanity that might spring to mind! Their profile...Their claims...
| Quote: | 180solutions is firing back. In the lawsuit, filed in the Superior Court of King County, Wash., last month, the company claimed that Zone Labs identified both the Zango and 180search Assistant applications, which deliver pop-up ads to users as they perform Web searches, as a "potential threat to the user's security and/or privacy."
These claims are false, according to 180solutions. The Bellevue, Wash.-based company has asked for unspecified monetary damages and an injunction forcing Zone Labs to cease its current classification of the products.
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180solutions says that because it uses the programming function Windows API Hook, which can be used to track keyboard strokes and mouse movements, Zone Labs erroneously concluded that it's taking advantage of the function in this way. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Doing some research, check this out:
The following site:
http://www.theamazingracist.net/
If you click any of the links (which the site says to click):
| Quote: | Just CLICK the LINKS ABOVE, whcih redirects you to a subpage, which will play the video, you must CLICK CONTINUE, to watch the video, it allows it to play, without clicking CONTINUE, the VIDEO WILL NOT PLAY. Please support sponsors, which help keep the site up.!
CLIP #1 - The Amazing Picking up Mexicans/Fake Work!
CLIP #2 - The Amazing Racist as a KKK Member!
CLIP #3 - The Amazing Racist At a Mosque!
CLIP #4 - The Amazing Racist filling up Gas!
CLIP #5 - The Amazing Racist At Making fun of ASIANS! |
For example this one clip #1 link brings up the page which is snapshot below.
This is the distribution system 180solutions has setup?
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| Click to enlarge... Zango partners with theamazingracist.com to offer the "best amizing racist videos on the web" |
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281.91 KB |
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1223 Time(s) |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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And here is the kicker, the current owner of theamazingracist.com is selling it:
http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=323791
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http://www.theamazingracist.net
Age of site (months): 3 Months + Few Days
Monthly revenue: $1600+
--> Before i start, PLEASE do not:
1. Comment on the site, good or bad, it's up for sale, not for review.
2. This website is not up for discussion, so please do not bring up anything that is unrelated from YOU buying it.
Revenue details:
Revenue comes from "ZangoCash". There a "pay per install" company.
You must click 'continue' then 'download & open' (which installs their toolbar) then the website redirects back to the video page and allows you to watch the video. Zango is not 'spyware', but 'adware' it installs a toolbar on the computer which shows several popups per day.
The site has the potential for banners/popups/popunders which will definietly increase revenue. (I have never tested any of them)
REVENUE OVERVIEW
- October - $532.42
(Site was not indexed in google until the 17th of october, this is when the revenue jumped from $3 - $10 - $30 - $50+ a day)
Jumped from $3 - $50 / day within JUST 10 DAYS of being Indexed in Google!
- November - 1626.42 $
Jumped from $3 - $60 / day within JUST 10 DAYS of being Indexed in Google!
NOW Revenue is consistent around $65+/day (Has been $48/day 1or2 days or 85+/day 4or5 days)
-PM me for Screenshots (of revenue proof)
Monthly page views: 36,000+ Uniques
Traffic details:
The site consistently averages about 1200 uniques a day. (goes from 1100 - 1500) Has hit above 2400 before.
- I have never spent any money advertising the site, google and Entertainment websites/forums brings me in all the traffic.
- 99% of the traffic comes from Google. The website is ranked VERY well in google under these keywords "the amazing racist" &
"amazing racist", which are the top 2 searched keywords for this topic. Every other day or so the website usually gets posted on
a large entertainment network or forum, which usually boosts up the uniuqe hits by 1000 or so. Within the last month, the site was
posted on many, largest being 'WorldofWarcraft' Forums, 'Ebaumsworld Forums' & Homepage of 'SomethingAwful".
--> Extreme Tracking Stats
http://extremetracking.com/open;unique?login=aracist
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So 180Solutions makes money, this partner makes money, and someone else is going to buy it to continue this nefarious behavior? Better yet, check out the attached PDF of the extremetracking page for the site. More public details revealed of the victims.
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| victims public info revealed (pdf inside) |
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tracking.zip |
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239 Time(s) |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Speaking of 180Solutions and Zango, see Mike Burgess' http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/temp/zango.htm
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| Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:55 am Post subject: |
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I have to say I am speechless. Almost.
How is it that anyone associated with this company can walk the planet and not feel like the scum of the earth.
It's like being out in a bar, and your someone who does not smoke and coming home with that smell, you can't wait to get home to wash it off and throw your clothes in the washing machine.
How does an employee of 180Solutions wash this off? Or anyone down the entire line connected with them.
I almost feel a need to never mention them again or speak\type the name.
Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| Paul wrote: | | No matter what the outcome, this is generating just free press for 180solutions. |
If anyone's getting free press, is ZoneLabs...and at least bad press for 180 
Nice info, btw. Well not nice, despicable in fact, but it's exposure.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:13 am Post subject: |
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Buf if 180 do wins the courtcase (touch wood), it would be considered a major win on their side.
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All is fair in love and war hack it crash it
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